Monday 29 August 2005

Some evidence (case studies) of masturbation causing phimosis and stopping masturbating curing it. If on mobile - best viewed in web mode (scroll down to bottom )

If on mobile - best viewed in web mode (scroll down to bottom ). Format is messed up on mobile. Where I say Source, that is end of case study.

Evidence

Stretching isn’t sufficient. If this was all that it takes to cure phimosis then why isnt every person curing it easily?  You hardly ever hear of success stories with just stretching.  That is because most phimosis is caused by damage to the penis and most people masturbate every day so the penis has no time to repair.  If you dont allow repair to happen by not masturbating for at least 5 days you will never cure phimosis.

Below are postings gathered from the internet from different sources that all indicate that they applied too much pressure in masturbation.  Also evidence on how being skinny increases penis size.  Yes, I know this isn't great evidence (as it is anecdotal) but it does help bolster my case a little for those sceptical:
A urologist doctor explains why jelqing is bad:
The concept of “jelqing,” if not the actual term, has been around for as long as men have felt insecure about the size of their penises…which is to say, a very long time. (Some proponents claim it stems from ancient Arabic texts, though this is unconfirmed.) Put simply, jelqing entails stretching out, or “milking,” the semi-erect organ for a set amount of time per day, which theoretically creates small tears in the penile issue, forcing the growth of new cells and thus a small increase in size. (Others have suggested that jelqing enlarges the blood chambers of the penis, creating more blood flow to the penis and thus larger erections.)
Of course, there’s very little actual research suggesting that this is true, says Yaniv Larish, MD  partner at Fifth Avenue Urology in Manhattan. In fact, when patients have approached him asking if they should try jelquing, “I routinely advise patients not to perform it,” he told Rolling Stone.

“And the reason is because when you do that stretching technique, essentially what you’re causing is a microvascular injury to the erectile bodies of the penis, the corpus cavernosa,” the chambers in the penis that fill with blood when you get an erection.

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jelqing-penis-size-increase-length-841045/
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CASES OF GUYs WHO HAVE CURED THEIR PHIMOSIS BY NOT MASTURBATING:
CASE 1
help , I couldnt pull my foreskin only till 15% of the glans , I used to be a frequent masturbator , I now 18 , have been tapping since 13 ... I stopped fapping for a week and washed it with lukewarm water.. and this was the result ? do you think stopping masturbation and washing penis would heal

So did stopping masturbating improve things and make it easier to pull down?

[–]Comprehensive-Gas945[S] 1 point 9 hours ago

Yes , masturbation in my case , made the foreskin dry and hard , could be incorrect technique ( can't say the same for anyone else) it's been better after I stopped doing it

Editor note: According to my theory it is more likely that masturbation damaged the shaft making it narrower than the head both heightwise and widthwise. Stopping allowed the shaft to reflate so it then becomes easier to pull down. See www.uktightforeskin.blogspot.com



CASE 2
31yo guy documents his progress from not masturbating. He says it is down to stretching but it is
not, it is down to stopping applying too much pressure in masturbating.  He writes:

Hi guys, this is my stretching journey, with as much detail as possible and some tips. Hope it helps you!

Long story short: I discovered the way I was masturbating caused my phimosis. I did stretching exercises and succeeded.

Disclaimer: This is not medical advice. This is only my experience.

MY PHIMOSIS CONDITION

31 Years old. Grade 2 phimosis, with lots of scarred skin. I can retract fully when flaccid, but not when erect. Didn't use to have phimosis before, I acquired it through the years. I could always fit 2 fingers inside the foreskin to do the stretching.

Photo: this is all I can pull:

https://preview.redd.it/dileyyb1cuk81.jpg?width=4160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d85a4638ef27e481ad4c2b394d70857dc23f795b

Video: you can see how much I can pull. The phimotic band is not at the top of the foreskin, which is why I can pull some more with my fingers.

https://reddit.com/link/t4j73k/video/zl6ek1bdcuk81/player

HOW I THINK I GOT PHIMOSIS - DID BAD MASTURBATION HABITS CAUSED AND WORSENED MY PHIMOSIS?

I didn't consult a doctor about this, so this is only my opinion, but I'm sure this is what happened. I didn't use to have phimosis; I acquired it through the years. I think I got it from masturbating vigorously (applying too much force and pressure with my hand). I would always end up with a swollen foreskin, and sometimes little cuts on it. This caused the skin to form scar tissue, which doesn't stretch as much as normal skin, so my guess is that all that scarring made my skin tighter.

There is something called "Traumatic Masturbation Syndrome", which is when you masturbate vigorously or do prone masturbation. This causes the penis to become desensitized, and can cause erectile dysfunction in the long run. So I think this is what happened to me, I applied too much pressure, become desensitized and needed even more to make it feel good every time, causing more harm to the skin.

CHANGING MASTURBATION HABITS

This took a lot of time before I found out how to correctly masturbate because I didn't know what the problem was. So at first I thought that only by pulling forwards with my hand (so that the foreskin covers the head) and letting loose so the foreskin uncovers the head on its own would be enough. That didn't work out, because I was still applying too much pressure.

I read that for a desensitized penis, not masturbating for a week would make it sensitive again to little stimulation. So I come up with the idea of masturbating by not applying any pressure at all. I don't close my hand around the penis, and I barely touch it. It took some time to make a habit of it, but I could see the effects immediately, the skin wouldn't become swollen anymore.

Nonetheless, this took months, I don't know how many. It's hard changing something you are used to do in a certain way. I guess it's like learning how to write with the opposite hand.

MY STRETCHING JOURNEY, ROUTINE & ADJUSTMENTS

After changing my masturbation habits, I decided to give stretching a try before consulting a doctor.

DAY 1: The first couple of weeks were only for testing: how much stretching I could handle, how much force to apply, where to apply it, how the skin reacted through the days, etc.

DAY 14: After that, I decided my stretching routine: 2 minutes 30 seconds, 4 times with resting time in between, once a day after shower. The resting times were also approximately 2'30" each. I was precise with the stretching time, but not so much with the resting time. I held this routine for 1 and 1/2 months, and I could start seeing some results, but only a little bit, so I decided to change it.

DAY 60: I changed it to 5' of stretching and 5'-10' of resting in between, 4 times, once a day. The foreskin could resist it, but my fingers become numb by the last minutes. After one month with this routine, I started seeing real results. I started feeling motivated, which was a great mental change. Under certain positions, I could retract my foreskin almost completely if I forced it carefully and slowly.

DAY 90: Another month in, it was easier to retract my foreskin, but still not there yet, because there's still some resistance. Finding the phimotic band with my fingers became harder, since it kind of got to the point where the rest of the foreskin is. By this point I already consider it a success. When I masturbate, it's easier to do it if I stretch beforehand. I continue stretching the same way, but find the progress slows down, maybe it's because with every day that passes, I find it harder to find the phimotic band, and I don't really know if I'm actually stretching it. Nonetheless, there is progress.

https://reddit.com/link/t4j73k/video/1m36vl29duk81/player

DAY 120: This was the result. I heard that once you are done, you should keep stretching for at least 4 weeks to avoid it from shrinking, and after only by masturbating you will be able to maintain it. So that's what I'll do, maybe I keep stretching even more time, just in case. And I'll stretch the entire foreskin, and not only where the phimotic band was. Here is the before & after:

https://preview.redd.it/o6csm57pcuk81.jpg?width=4160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=352960c772b9b071c8fec312e9dfb232554c5c8d

https://reddit.com/link/t4j73k/video/aw9f0y5qcuk81/player

To sum it up, this is how much time the stretching took:

  • 15 days for testing
  • 45 days of not stretching enough.
  • 60 days doing it right.

HOW I DID THE STRETCHING & TIPS I LEARNED

  • I didn't use any cream or oil. I always stretched after the shower to have moisturized and relaxed skin. There were some times when I did it before shower, so I gently massaged the foreskin to get it to relax.
  • I used the 2 fingers stretching (they always fitted in), holding still all the time, and not letting loose
  • I didn't stretch the whole foreskin with the falange of my fingers, only used the tip of the fingers to stretch the phimotic band.
  • When stretching, you should feel tension, but it must not painful. How much is something you have to try and find out yourself. It also shouldn’t ache after stretching sessions.
  • You have to be constant and do it daily, but also let the skin rest occasionally. For me, there was usually one day a week in which I wouldn't stretch, or do it for half the time, just to avoid soreness. If the skin becomes sore, then let it rest the necessary days for it to heal (this didn't happen to me at all, if it continues happening to you, then you are doing something wrong).
  • Don't try to rush it at first, use the first few weeks as a test to learn how to do it, don't expect the results to come during that time.
  • It takes compromise to do it every day; you have to think of it as a routine, just like brushing your teeth or showering. You won't be motivated to do it; you just have to do it. Motivation comes when you start seeing the first results, and it has a positive effect on your mind; when it comes, you will want to keep going.
  • It may sound like it takes a lot of time, but time flies by. It's years of phimosis fixed by a few months only.
  • I highly recommend reading this: http://phimosisjourney.com/

I hope this helped you! Thank you for reading!

Special thanks to everyone in this community!

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Editor note:  Note that the reason he can retract easier is because the 2 side by side corpus cavernosum (the shaft) has repaired and is now wider than the head.  In the before penis pic the shaft goes in slightly towards the head of the penis.  The before picture also shows the penis bends forward indicating damage to the corpus spongiosum (the underside chamber of the 3 chambers of the penis).



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CASE 3

I’ve hit 60 days of nofap today, and my phimosis is almost completely conquered (just slight frenulum breve and sensitivity). After 90 days of nofap, I’m gonna need to smash and I was wandering a few things.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Phimosis/comments/y4wvgm/sexy_times/ Reddit, Oct 2022

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CASE 4

He writes: I used to be a big time fap guy and woud fap multiple times a day from ages 11-20 (21 now). On average, lets say 2-4 times day, almost every day for many years. But I never really used lotion or vaseline while fapping until like last year.
Recently due to personal goals I have been practicing forms of nofap and semen retention. In the last 3 months ive masturbated maybe a dozen times usually 2 or 3 weeks in between then one night where i go crazy and do it 2-3 times then go back to 2-3 weeks of nofap.
Coincidentally without any real stretching or anything (very minimal the only stretching i do is slightly pull it back here and there until it feels tight but not painful) I casually pulled back my foreskin while peeing with a flaccid penis.
I think my lack of masturbation and therefore lack of constantly adding microtears to an already scarred and tight foreskin (and my body in general, fuck lotions).  I think in the course of a few months this has allowed my foreskin to heal itself.


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CASE 6
Another User from reddit, Federal_Wing_9644

Do not listen to this advice what so ever. This is literally the worst advice possible , masterbating more will only cause more inclination and soreness to the foreskin , tugging harder can cause even more discomfort, this has to be the dumbest advice I’ve read so far.

The best way to fix phimosis is to literally cut down on masterbation , perhaps once a day MAX try to keep masterbation to a minimal 3-4 times a week if you want , if you can try doing 2-3 a week. [Editor Note:  This is still far to much as you can set your progress back a lot very easily with one session.  You need to not do it for months and avoid exercise so all energy goes into repair]

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Phimosis/comments/uwb3et/mild_phimosis_case_and_slightly_short_frenulum/ November 2022

"It’s kind of crazy how much my results have come by since I cut down on masterbating , I truly wish I did this earlier"

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CASE 7: User throwaway20226715


 I have suffered setbacks due to tearing of my foreskin from most likely rough masturbation. Over the last few months, however, I tried the method of attempting to pull your foreskin back as far as possible without pain during masturbation. I wasn't expecting much, but over the course of weeks I noticed that I was slowly able to pull my foreskin farther and farther back without pain. Mind you, I think I may simply have a tight foreskin rather than full on phimosis because I've always been able to retract enough to see about 5-10% of the head, but this was a massive game-changer for me regardless. This, coupled with easing the voracity with which I was masturbating has really helped me see progress and I finally achieved the ability to see the entire glans when erect.

Source: Semi-Cured Phimosis Reddit, Nov 2022

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Case 8


I discovered I had pin hole phimosis when I was 24 years old. I started to stretch when I was 26. I almost gave up at 27 and I am now 90% cured
"I curse my pathetic 10 year self who discovered the pleasure of prone masturbation. I masturbated prone till I was 22. I had a crippling addiction to porn as well. I used to play all these hentai games till last year. Prone Masturbation resulted in me having phimosis. Over the years I have almost treated phimosis with discipline. However I switched to deathgrip form of Masturbation from prone masturbation. I have stopped watching porn since a year now and stopped playing hentai games since last 7 months. I have been on no fap journey for a year and half now. My longest streak was 100 days. I have gone for 30 days without MO for few months now." Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/rlb7r4/feeling_hopeless_and_increasingly_suicidal_i_cant/
"I started with a very tight phimosis and over the years have now come to a position where I can retract while fully erect."

EDITOR NOTE: He puts it down to stretching but it is likely due to not masturbating and the penis shaft repairing so it is wide than the head.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/user/Phimowarrior_tway/submitted/ Reddit April 2023

Case 9



i need to not fap for a few months due to some health problems, i have not done it for 4 days and im already getting hit like a truck from horniness, i legit woke up in the middle on the night from being horny and now im writing this post, i went from doing it from 7 times a day to not even touching touching and now im "burning up".

Source: https://www.reddit.com/user/jimraf Reddit Aug 2023

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CASES OF GUYS WHO HAVE PHIMOSIS AND SAY THEY MASTURBATE A LOT AND WITH UNUSUAL METHODS:

i need to not fap for a few months due to some health problems, i have not done it for 4 days and im already getting hit like a truck from horniness, i legit woke up in the middle on the night from being horny and now im writing this post, i went from doing it from 7 times a day to not even touching touching and now im "burning up".
Source: https://www.reddit.com/user/jimraf Reddit Aug 2023
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"Yes I always had it because of my prone masturbation habits, but my head did came out when I had sex and it was very sensitive I had to struggle to glide my foreskin over the head, luckyly i was able to put it over my head. Since then I have used condom ,very scared to go without condom as it might cause paraphimosis"


Editor Note:  Note the shaft is slimmer than the head heightwise.  The corona ridge of glans is clearly visible.
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Source: Reddit, Mar 2023
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Below is a prime example of how excessive masturbation has caused this guys small penis and phimosis:

He writes: "I'm 19 years old and i used to mastrubate prone (laying on my stomach and rubbing my penis until i cum while its in flaccid state) till the age of 15-16 and not with my hands(natural way).

I almost never get morning erections. Although, i do get nightime erections which I've noticed whenever i wake up after 4 hours of sleep, also i get partial erections when I'm woken up by the need to pee.

my erection quality is not very good and they dont last long. i also mastrubate quite frequently (7-16 times a week). Furthermore my foreskin is very tight as i have phimosis, I'll be getting circumcised in 3 months for this reason.

My goal is to improve my erection quality, get moring woods all the time and grow my dick be 0.5-1 inch minimum as I'm only 5 inches at best (slightly below that perhaps but 4.7-5). my dream is 6 inches. but 5.5-6 would be good as well."




"I have mild ED and don't get morning woods."
Editor note: this guys penis has been completely destroyed by his excessive masturbation. The pressure of the hand does damage the delicate spongy chambers making them collapse. Because of this blood does not fill the penis properly. Consequently sleep erections which last 2hrs or more in healthy males and are responsible for size arent effective at stretching it out.Full explanation at: www.uktightforeskin.blogspot.com
Source: https://www.reddit.com/user/kacper_1411  Reddit, Jan 2022

Instead I put my thumb on top of the head (covered with foreskin) and move it in a circular motion. Idk if thats weird or not cause I find the other “normal” method weird. I also think that the way I do it exasperates the phimosis further cause it does stretch the band.

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I've had phimosis my whole life. I learnt that I had it when I was 15. The causes of my case are a combination of genetics and prone masturbation when I was kid. When I first discovered it I didn't think much about it. At around 18 I started to consider the fact that someday I was gonna get circumcized but I just kept putting it off. At 23 I became sexually active and discovered that it hindered my sexual life due to reduced sensitivity, accidental foreskin pullbacks and self esteem issues. At that time I discovered stretching and did that for a month or so (I used virgin coconut oil too). After that I got to the point where I could pull it back painlessly to clean it, but then I slacked and stop stretching for like two years and nothing changed. I could manage my sex life for that time but it got to the point where I got tired of feeling limited and it made a negative impact on my relationship, so I decided to treat it for real this time. I've been doing stretching for 3 weeks now, I've started using coconut oil again and I began masturbating properly. I had made some small yet quick progress. 

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Post title: “Does erectile dysfunction have anything to do with phimosis”
 I've kinda stopped [masturbating] recently but before I stopped [I did it] pretty much every day. i kinda realised it might be bad”
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 How would you describe the "normal way to masturbate'"?

Moving my foreskin up and down, vs rubbing which was what I originally did

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27yo reduced masturbating to once every 2 days:
Loosening my grip was important... took me ages to just stop jerking off for 2-3 days so I could learn a new approach, but if you can do it once you can repeat it, and it feels great eventually”

 I also cut down my masturbation from like 2-3x a day to 1x a day at most, and mostly 1x every 2 days (hard but very doable)”

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Phimosis/comments/oqgaf4/i_am_fully_phimosis_free_after_years_of_trying/ Reddit, July 2021

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 Just curious, I masturbate by putting pressure on my head (up and down) and never exposed my head. Found out about phimosis recently. Could this have been a cause? Should I find a different way to jerk off? Thx”
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Trouble getting hard (this is due to penis damage):

"So I have what I assume is relatively mild phimosis. When flaccid I can slide my foreskin down with 0 problems. I've been doing it for years to shower. However, I discovered just the other day that I can't full slide it down when erect (it goes like half way then stops). Never had the need to check I guess. So I got here eventually, and I decided to try stretching. It makes sense to me, given where I am, to stretch while erect, but it's not easy. I tend not to get erect often, but I can manage, but when I do and I slip my foreskin down I start to go soft really quick. I think its because this whole thing is making me anxious and that's kind of an arousal killer. How do you guys keep hard while stretching?"

​Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Phimosis/comments/nj1vu0/how_to_stay_erect_when_stretching_and_other_tips/

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"Hi I’m 19 nearly 20.
I’ve been masturbating since age 13 I’d say but I was doing it wrong aka Prone Masturbation, I did masturbate normally too but humping the bed was more discreet and easier to hide if anyone came in.
I can’t retract my foreskin when flaccid at all literally nothing, when erect the foreskin opens at the head a tiny bit but no where near the amount for the glans to come out.

I tried stretching with cotton swab stick things but got demotivated and the time consuming effect made me stop completely but I’m nearly 20 and I’m shy as it is but having phimosis makes me the most I confident person ever because I know If I ever got in a position of having sex of any kind with a girl it wouldn’t work please I need help on how to stretch, I have the phimocure kit but the rings don’t fit"
Source: http://phimosisjourney.com/ Comment on phimosisjourney, Nov 2019
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"I have known I had phimosis for over a year now, but I found it to be a chore and that it wouldn’t work since I can’t get my fingers in so I just pinch the skin on each side a little and pull apart. But only do it rarely, sometimes I stop for few weeks then do it for a month so ofcouse I’m not seeing progress

How ever tho, last week and a half I can notice progress, I haven’t been stretching tho, I simply just haven’t been able to masterbate since I’ve had to live with my nan for a little while. I’m not sure if I even have phimosis, because the skin seems to be stuck to the head more than the hole being too small, and since I’ve stopped I’ve obviously been avoiding getting dick cheese, and I have got a lot still.

But as I gradually clean it out slowly at a time by pulling when I pinch the foreskin in bath, I seems to be getting not so stuck to the head and it looks like it’s making progress

So my question is, does stop mastebating help it cure itself, or have I even got phimosis, but rather my skin is just stuck to the head by dick cheese?

FYI, been masterbating daily for like 6-8yrs and never knew to clean afterwards, but also FYI I couldn’t pull it back before hand, but also I would of been like 10-13 so it wouldn’t of had time to stretch its self by then before I started collecting dick cheese.

I’m so confused, can you help me know if it’s phimosis or excessive cheese sticking it to the head"

Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20210509193247if_/https://www.reddit.com/r/Phimosis/comments/n8ljgu/stop_masterbating_helps/  Reddit, May 2021

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"I would say it took me around 1-2 months. However even after I could retract, it wasn't that smooth but as I masturbated correctly after this and whatnots, I gained even more mobility."

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Reddit 2020
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Success case after my advice (User:sensitiverub on reddit - doesnt credit me though)

Update (credits it to stretching but pretty sure it was my advice of not masturbating):



"I would suggest just stretch while/after bath and in night while sleeping. You don't have to take out time just for this."  

Editor comment: If this was all that it takes to cure phimosis then why isnt every person curing it easily?  You hardly ever hear of success stories with just stretching.  That is because most phimosis is caused by damage to the penis and most people masturbate every day so the penis has no time to repair.  If you dont allow repair to happen by not masturbating for at least 5 days you will never cure phimosis.

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" I generally grip very firmly and rub the head from over the foreskin, or sometimes move the foreskin up and down till I comfortably can "


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Foreskin is tighter after masturbation:

"I’m 19 years old and have come to the conclusion I’ve got phimosis, it’s not pinhole and I can see quite a lot of my head when retracting but can’t get it over it, I think my phimotic band being too tight is the issue. I wish I wasn’t in this situation so am trying my best to fix it. I’ve been stretching daily for about a week in the bath just with my fingers by pulling each end of my foreskin outwards and holding for about 5-10 minutes. I felt like I was making some (albeit small) progress until I masturbated this morning, I only do it once a week so hadn’t experienced the situation up until now. I thought masturbating would actually help loosen the skin but when I’ve gone to stretch it in the bath tonight I’ve noticed my foreskin is actually tighter than usual and harder to retract so I can see less of the head than usual. Can anyone suggest why this is please? I don’t think I masturbate too hard or anything as I’m gentle with it although I do it dry which may not be good given I have phimosis. This sub has been a great help to me for learning stretching techniques and hopefully fixing it in the future, I’m going to get some coconut oil soon as I’ve seen on here that it’s good for stretching! Thank you in advance."
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"My foreskin is finally barely able to pull all the way back. It is still tight but I have actually been able to masturbate "normally" now. I was was masturbating completely wrong for a long time and I think it has messed with my sensitivity. It now takes a really long time to have an orgasm but it is worth it. I used to need to masturbate multiple times a day and never felt satisfied."

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Phimosis/comments/kqnodt/my_foreskin_finally_can_be_pulled_back_and_it_has/?ref=share&ref_source=link  Jan 2020
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"For a long time I did prone masturbation, but this year I read about how bad it can be, and started doing it in the healthy way successfully (I masturbate with the skin on, the skin covering most of the glans, except an opening ~3 fingertips wide)."

Source: https://www.reddit.com/user/SelectionWide
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I recentlly realised that i might have a condition called phimosis, i researched and i researched and i found out that stretching is the best way to get rid of phimosis. So i started to do stretching, first time was yesterday, and im pretty sure i didnt do more than 2 minutes, i would pull down the foreskin until it feels uncomfortable and hold for 30, today i started doing it more often, in the morning, mid-day and in the evening, i would do 2 types of stretching too, holding down the foreskin and grabing the edges of the foreskin and holding it for 30 seconds, durying the mid-day stretching, i was able to pull the foreskin down so much that i could see my frenulum, with a little bit of discomfort (it seemed short but i guess it was because i saw it for the first time ever), in the evening i couldnt really pull it down until i could see the frenulum, it started to hurt a bit when i tried to. Now, for the past 4 to 5 years i would masturbate ONLY prone, in the last months i tried the normal way to masturbate, and thats when i realised that theres something wrong. I cant pull down my foreskin past my glans even when im flaccid. Im 15 and a half years old, so i guess that there are some pretty big chances that this is just late foreskin development, since i read that some people can retract their foreskin only when they are 17, some only when they are 19, also, would stretching speed up the development ? or should i leave time to deal with it ?

source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Phimosis/comments/ijlvfi/phimosis_caused_by_prone_masturbation_or_just/

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"After around two months of consistent stretching, I (24 years old) finally managed to retract while fully erect and was also able to push the skin back-on without any issues.
Before beginning the stretching exercises, while flaccid, I could retract only as far to barely reveal the meatus, and retraction was impossible while erect.
I couldn't even insert one finger inside the foreskin, so I started stretching by holding the outer edges of the foreskin and pulling sideways. I did this twice everyday, for about 20 minutes as per Phimosis Journey blog guidelines. After a few days I could insert two fingers, so I started proper two-finger stretching. Then it progressed to three and finally four-finger (both index and middle fingers) stretching. After a month of starting the exercise, I could retract while flaccid. From there, it took another month of stretching as well as de-sensitizing exercises to retract comfortably while erect. The feeling of finally seeing the glans in all it's glory while erect is worth all the effort, LOL!
It still doesn't glide over the glans freely while fully erect, and requires a tiny bit of force to pull it behind the head. But I don't have to struggle with it to push it back, just a gentle push. I'm going to continue stretching till the movement happens freely. While flaccid, it retracts freely without requiring additional force.
I never used any ointments or prescription creams. The only thing I used was coconut oil (virgin) to reduce the stinging pain due to sensitivity, whenever my fingers accidentally touched the glans while stretching.
Something weird that I observed was that abstaining from masturbation, or atleast reducing it's frequency during this time period seems to positively affect the progress. I'd like to know if anybody else also felt the same, or whether this is a placebo. But yeah, I had started to practise NoFap a few weeks before starting this, and relapsed quite a lot of times after the foreskin loosened up a bit, due to my newfound curiosity to check out how different it feels to do the deed with a proper foreskin LOL. Slowly back on track now.


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"I started fapping at the age of 13 and have been doing it between 3-10 times per day ever since. With three being the absolute minimum (one in the morning, one during the day and one before bed). So I guess I sound like every other dopamine addicted chronic masturbator, however I have some big problems.

Since I started masturbating I have done so in a very weird style, note that I have never done it normally and don't think I can. I basically lay down flat on my bed, and sort of use my hands to stretch my foreskin and create lots of pressure on my penis bending it in half completely flaccid, yes I fap and ejaculate flaccid a freak of nature right? This technique has caused a serious curve that is classed as Peyronies Disease where my penis curves at a 45 degree angle.

This weird style has also caused my foreskin to stretch so far it hangs off and I had severe phimosis however it is now mild after months of stretching I can finally pull it back with a bit of force. But the excess foreskin is unsightly.

As I said this weird masturbation style never required an erection. I would fap and cum flaccid and even wait for an erection to dissappear before fapping."

Reddit, November 2014
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"I have only just read that it is not normal to not be able to retract your foreskin when you are either flaccid or erect and I cant do it with both. Ive read that it could be due to a strange masturbation technique such as 'masturbating through clothes or simply just rubbing the penis under clothes' Ive realised that ive been doing this pretty much everyday since I can remember and Im now 21. If I stop this kind of masturbation will my perpetuial ring widen and allow my glans to emerge? Im reluctant to go to the doctors to tell anyone about it and circumcizion is OUT OF THE QUESTION for me. please help me with advice!"

Yahoo Answers, 2010
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100614083203AArB4uC

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"I have never been able to pull my foreskin back - ever - and, silly as it may sound, it only recently came to my attention that this may actually be... well, not the norm. After hearing this, I did a bit of research online to discover that the condition is called 'phimosis'. Honestly, it's very sensitive if I try to retract it and I have some kind of psychological block where the fear of it being painful prevents me from trying too much.

Seems that in some people it can be caused by infection, but there is also a school of thought which suggests that it can also be caused by 'prone' masturbation - another fancy term I was unfamiliar with. Prone masturbation is just a posh way of saying, 'masturbation by lying face down on the bed and humping the mattress'. Ahem.

Anyway, that's the only masturbation technique I've ever practised and never thought anything of it until I read all this a few days ago. There are plenty of debates about the whole thing though, whether or not there actually is a link between one's technique and the development of phimosis. So, that left me all a bit confuzzled. Then, there's another theory which suggests that prone masturbation can lead to sex drive problems in later life - although that conclusion was based on a ridiculously small study sample and isn't widely accepted as fact.

Based on the theory that 'prone' technique causes phimosis, it has been suggested that the condition can be cured if the person stops that technique completely and just does it the 'conventional' way. Which is fine, except that because I'm so used to doing it 'prone' (such a silly term), wanking in the conventional sense doesn't really do it for me. There's a slight arousal, followed by... well, boredom generally. But all of this is based on a theory rather than proven fact, so I'm a bit confused.

Anyway, thanks to the internet I now feel like an insecure and slightly concerned freak. I don't know, does any of this chime with anyone else?"


fmforums, 2011:
http://www.fmforums.co.uk/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t135193.html

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Beauge, a French doctor found a link between masturbation practices and phimosis.
http://www.cirp.org/library/treatment/phimosis/beauge/
http://www.male-initiation.net/library/medicus/beauge.html

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"Hello
I have decided to try and stop masturbating as I have realised it could be the cause of my severe anxiety. I masturbate about 3 or 4 times a school day and on weekends than number has gone into the 20's.
The thing with me is that masturbation for me is extremely easy. For most of my life I have masturbated prone (see http://www.healthystrokes.com for more details) and although it is bad for my penis and probably the cause of my phimosis, I can't help but do it whenever I get the urge, because using this method only takes me a few minutes to climax and then the urge is gone. I timed myself this morning and it took me 4 minutes. I can also masturbate semi regularly but it takes longer. For me, the struggle will be resisting using up 4 minutes to get rid of the urge.
Has anyone been in a similar situation? And any advice? Thanks :)"

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"I don't really know how to say this but his dick never gets fully hard. When we have sex he'll struggle to put the condom on but he can still penetrate me but it doesn't really feel good since it feels like it's semi hard... I don't know how to tell him I think there may be something wrong with his dick? He also has phimosis if that could be related to it. He believes that it's normal for boners to be soft and not completely hard and I don't want to hurt his feelings and cause him to feel uncomfortable being naked with me."

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"Started wanking at 9, wanked like 3 times day for 6 years (am now 15). I would have like 10 tabs open at a time, death-grip edging for an hour each session (used to be scared of PE & turned disastrous). Eventually gained so much stamina I couldn't have a quick wank, takes 40 minutes at a time (on a good day) which caused me to get very porn by regular porn - got into sissy, transgender and forced-bi porn. (Completely porn induced)."

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"The process is sometimes hard, indeed. But in the end it justifies the success ^^ Now, to answer your first question. I had stretching sessions for about 15-20 minutes, yes.
I kept my fingers inside as long as I could without feeling any pain.
When I started to feel a bit of pain I did not let my foreskin go.. instead, I kept it stretched for about 10-15 more seconds and then I let it go. So you could say that I had a few breaks.. maybe like a minute break.. not more than that.

As for the second question.
At the time, I think I masturbated for about 2 times per day.. or once.. I cant really remember.
I do not think it affected my stretching cause I had a really weird way of masturbating which was not pulling the foreskin over my glans ( obviously I could not do that due to my phimosis ).
I kinda like rubbed my glans with a specific part of my palm
which ended in giving me normal masturbating sessions and it did not affect my progress in any way.
The only thing that did affect my progress was normal stretching shown here.
Source: http://www.network54.com/Forum/244184/thread/1426804197/last-1427400606/I+DID+IT+%21+-%29

Editor Note:  This just proves my theory is true that the spongy chambers of the penis is damaged.

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Hello, hope someone can give me some tips, this is my story: I'm uncircumcised, I used to have problems retracting my foreskin so I went to the doctor, he told me i had phimosis and that circumcision would fix it.
Of course I didn't feel like wanting to go through that so I asked for other options, he gave me steroid creams and told me to try to expand it myself.
I did and it kind of worked, I can retract my foreskin fully now (when erect), I still have some pending issues with that, since I have a short frenulum to deal with.
Now my current problem is with balanitis, the first time I got this red spots and inflammation I went to the doctor, he told me it was balanitis, gave me some over the counter cream and within 3 days I was back to normal.
Yet the problem persist, every time I masturbate too much/hard the problem comes back. I do enjoy long masturbation sessions with a lot or rubbing (sometimes even under clothes), but besides getting another opinion I don't know what to do.
Even trying to match the doctor's appointment with the problem is hard, I have it one day and the next one (or two) I'm all fine. So my question is, do you know of any method or process that I can do to minimize this? lotion? a bath before fap, a bath after? with soap, without soap? Any circumcised fellows with similar issue around?
Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/30v8d6/balanitis_phimosis_circumcision_rough/

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When I was about 11 I began masturbating. Instead of the up and down motion, I would rub it like if I was making a clay snake. Fast forward again to about 14, I was watching a porn video and noticed the guy had foreskin, but they did kinda a close-up and he pulled it all the way back and I was like "Wait wut?" and after looking up on Google I finally realized I was supposed to retract my foreskin. Source: http://www.network54.com/Forum/244184/thread/1434208789/last-1434361088/Can+I+fix+this-

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I've never been able to orgasm from vaginal stimulation (oral & handjobs too) & can often go for 20+ minutes resulting in me having to finish myself off often causing a lot of problems and self frustration with various partners. I used to masterbate prone until I was 18 then for the last 8 years conventionally (no lube though) and until now was watching porn & masterbating about twice a day. it's as if during intercourse I just don't feel the sensation as I imaging my glans are covered by the foreskin so i just get a sort of warm sensation but not enough stimulation to reach orgasm regardless of position. Source: http://www.network54.com/Forum/244184/thread/1459115123/last-1459661828/Unable+to+orgasm+from+PIV+-+Phimocure+Rings
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I have cured my phimosis after 5 months which was caused by my use of prone masturbation and I can't seem to find a way of supine masturbation that feels good in any way. I have tried both wet and dry but cannot finish. When I stroke I feel nothing, just the action happening. My glans is still very sensitive but I'm not sure if that's the problem. Is there anything I can do to make my masturbation sessions feel good?"

http://www.network54.com/Forum/244184/thread/1481603255/last-1481652718/Cured+Phimosis%2C+can%27t+Masturbate.

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"A little context: i have phimosis (not an extreme case), but i only realized when i was about 20 something, as is wasn't something that bothered me in any way, i "learned" how to masturbate dry, since the foreskin allowed me to stimulate the head, without using any lube (since i "grab" the skin and use it to stimulate). Eventually, i started to "burn" the skin, turning it darker, even making a few bruises, that didn't hurt at all, but visually was weird, that i started to be embarassed about it, showing it to other people. In fact, sometimes it feels i use a lot of strenght to get an orgasm.
A few months ago, i've learned about stretching (and this sub), and started the exercises, and now i'm able to put 3, almost 4 fingers inside the phimotic ring, and i can retract while fully erect, with minimal pain, or no pain at all, but the head is quite sensitive, specially at the base.
Ok, back to my question: How i should masturbate, now? Should i retract the skin, use lub, and stimulate everything lightly? Should i keep stretching it so the skin can move freely up and down and use it to "protect" the head somehow?"

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Phimosis/comments/bkgtvy/hey_could_someone_describe_to_me_with_details_how/
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"I have suffered from phimosis since I can remember. When I was a kid I started masturbating in a really weird way and until I saw some porn I didn’t figure out how to masturbate properly."  Source: https://stretchingphimosis.wordpress.com/2015/06/17/hello-world/
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17. "I do genuinely believe excessive masturbation plays its part. I’m convinced that’s how I’ve ended with Phimosis - too much masturbation and I was probably using a poor, overly rigorous technique."
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Phimosis/comments/focoj0/covid19_lockdown_and_phimosis/
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"And at some point, I came across an interesting post where the guy said his masterbation technique was the reason for phimosis. For a moment, I stopped reading and started thinking.

I know I was not masterbating like others. I usually lie down and press my penis against bed and floor. All these years I thought I just found a different way to masterbate. But I was completely wrong.

What I was doing is prone masterbation which has serious side effects. When I read about it, I was terrified!
At the same time, I figured out that never in my life I tried to pull my foreskin back. I told myself, if I had done masterbation correctly all these years, I would not be facing phimosis currently which I don't know for sure."




Source: phimosisjourney.com

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He writes:
Can foreskin loosen up by masturbating a lot?

Responses:

"I’ve found that excessive masturbation actually makes mine worse as my hand constantly tugs at the tight spot. Actual sex seems to work quite well for stretching however."

"It didn’t help me in the phimosis side. It also gave me Porn Induced Erectyle Disfunction"

"Cant vouch for others but didn't help me at all"

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Guy who masturbates 2 times a day (doesn’t say for how long - which is important) follows my method and says it’s improving. Responses in denial:

Hello! 20 year old male throwaway account here starting his journey to cure phimosis. I'm doing this by stretching by the edges as I cannot fit two fingers in yet.

My question is if masturbation causes phimosis? I've been seeing multiple varying answers on the topic and it doesn't seem to be adding up at all. Theres a subreddit dedicated to the theory that it causes phimosis, yet, here, I've seen that masturbation actually cures phimosis somewhat (by the Beague method I believe).

I masturbate at least once or twice a day (Most of the times morning and night, and I do not do prone masturbation), and sometimes I dont masturbate at all due to exhaustion from daily life. I've started changing my way of masturbation by stretching all the way it can go without the accompany of pain. Obviously it felt good, and somewhat felt like it helped to do this different way of masturbation.

The past 2-3 days I've been stretching by the edges as I've said, and it seems like I can see my foreskin becoming more elastic over time, I don't know if my method is working or I'm seeing things. Either ways... I would like your thoughts on masturbation being the cause of phimosis!


https://www.reddit.com/r/Phimosis/comments/sv11f9/does_masturbation_actually_cause_phimosis/
Reddit. Feb 2022
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"Does masturbation kill progression? 

I had a 14mm (phimocure ring) in today for a bout an hour went in just fine but it was one of those days where I cranked one out a couple of times and now I’m trying to put the 14 in and it won’t go. I’m thinking maybe it’s sore or inflamed since I beat it like 3 times today"

"Good question man, I’ve been questioning this myself as well."

"Happens to me too. Even if I only do it once. It gets worse if I do it more than once or for consecutive days. I suspect it may have something to do with my erection stretching the foreskin due to how short it is, but I can't be sure."

Editor Note:  Note how he lied and was inaccurate about his masturbation habits.  First he said 2 times then it became 3.  This is why this theory would be hard to prove because guys just arent honest when it comes to embarrassing topics like phimosis. Also why previous studies conclusions that excessive masturbation isnt physically harmful to the penis and body cant be trusted and shouldnt be considered scientifically valid.

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He writes:

Finally got around to getting my foreskin to stretch past my glands. It’s still very tight but after a month I’d say this is definitely progress of continual stretching in the shower + limited masturbation.




 

He has diabetes and so got balinitis. One of few people who followed my method of not masturbating.  Not sure my method is enough for acquired phimosis. But can’t harm. The moderator chose to delete his comment. The moderator banned me from r/phimosis for advocating my method of not masturbating.

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Excess masturbation caused erectile dysfunction:


"I am 21 years old. I have been masturbating about 4-5 days out of the week for the about the last three months. Before that, I would take a break of about a week about once or twice a month. I masturbate with porn about 60% of the time. I just realized that if I’m watching a video and say I’m looking for another video and it takes me 2-4 minutes to find it, my erection completely goes away. I can am hard as I’m masturbating but it goes away once I stop thinking or watching. I can get erect again within 5 seconds and can stay erect as I’m watching or thinking even if I’m not masturbating. Is this normal? I am kind of scared and I’m going to go on atleast a 2 month break." Reddit, July 2022
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Guy starts nofap and steroid cream - puts success down to steroid cream and not nofap - Doh! (click to enlarge)
Just realized I have phimosis. Is NoFap still a possibility? (self.NoFap)

In case anyone isn’t aware, phimosis is a medical condition some uncircumcised men experience, where their foreskin is extremely tight and won’t fully retract over the head of the penis.

I’m seeing a doctor next month to discuss it and possibly get prescribed steroid cream to help expedite the process of fixing it, but it’s going to require erecting my penis, retracting my foreskin and potentially masturbating, as a consequence of an everyday stretching routine.

I have a lot of desire to stay on NoFap, as it’s truly helped me a lot, but fixing phimosis also goes against the whole essence of NoFap since I’d have to forcefully erect myself and potentially masturbate. I’m at a standstill here.

Other post:

Is the steroid cream supposed to work this fast? (self.Phimosis)

I discovered I had phimosis recently in my 20s and prior to ever using the steroid cream, the most I’ve been able to see of the head of penis was only about the size of a dime when retracting.

After applying steroid cream and stretching for a few minutes, my foreskin almost retracted over the head completely for the first time in my life and almost any sensitivity that I previously felt on the head when touching it was gone.

I’m trying not to get my hopes too high and figured this is probably just temporary due to the effects of the steroid cream and not some sort of miracle, but damn, it felt so surreal seeing and feeling this after hearing from my urologist that there’s basically no real cure for phimosis besides adult circumcision.
 

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"I pulled my skin while it was not erected then i starded masturbating for 2 hours with low erection and it just got swollen. I tried unprotected sex before but it was a bit painful."
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" i was noticing when i would finish a day of stretching then having a tug, then after a shower my foreskin feels tight and doesn’t pull back as much as before and can go a tiny bit inflamed etc until the next morning. And i have been tugging away dry so. I guess no masturbating is an option?"

"maybe why i haven’t seen as much progress as i would like. Even though i have made a decent amount of it. Iv been masturbating with/around my partner for weeks sometimes multiple a day. That sucks."

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Guy masturbates at least once a day:

Male, 24 Masturbation frequency = at least 1/day Sex frequency = fluctuates, at least 1/fortnight

I am sure this question/story has been posted a thousand times but I need to ask this again.

I have a pretty severe case of phimosis - I literally cannot pull my foreskin down.

And the one time I did, it was accidentally during sex - and that was the most painful experience of my life.

I had to go to the ER of a hospital because the foreskin could not be pulled up, and it was choking my penis so hard that it became swollen. That was so fucking shit.

Since then, I always use lube during sex. I’ve seen a urologist who thinks my phimosis is so severe that I should receive circumcision.

Another important fact to note is that I have never in my life orgasmed during intercourse (hand job, blowjob or PIV). I only cum if I jerk myself off and with intense focus.

I am honestly not sure why - it may be because I masturbate fairly frequently, but it may also be due to my severe phimosis which makes it basically impossible for anything beneath the foreskin to make contact or touch anything. Like, it physically hurts.

So: what do I do? I see conflicting opinions everywhere on circumcisions. My biggest concern to be frank is with sensation and pleasure. I originally thought getting a circumcision might fix my difficulty orgasming; but what if the real reason was due to my porn/masturbation habits? At the same time, a circumcision would mean that I never ever end up in the ER of a hospital at 4am while two doctors try pull my foreskin back up and I'm in incredible pain and agony.



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