Stretching isn’t sufficient. If this was all that it takes to cure phimosis then why isnt every person curing it easily? You hardly ever hear of success stories with just stretching. That is because most phimosis is caused by damage to the penis and most people masturbate every day so the penis has no time to repair. If you dont allow repair to happen by not masturbating for at least 5 days you will never cure phimosis.
Below are postings gathered from the internet from different sources that all indicate that they applied too much pressure in masturbation. Also evidence on how being skinny increases penis size. Yes, I know this isn't great evidence (as it is anecdotal) but it does help bolster my case a little for those sceptical:
“And the reason is because when you do that stretching technique, essentially what you’re causing is a microvascular injury to the erectile bodies of the penis, the corpus cavernosa,” the chambers in the penis that fill with blood when you get an erection.
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jelqing-penis-size-increase-length-841045/
[–]Comprehensive-Gas945[S] 1 point 9 hours ago
Yes , masturbation in my case , made the foreskin dry and hard , could be incorrect technique ( can't say the same for anyone else) it's been better after I stopped doing it
Editor note: According to my theory it is more likely that masturbation damaged the shaft making it narrower than the head both heightwise and widthwise. Stopping allowed the shaft to reflate so it then becomes easier to pull down. See www.uktightforeskin.blogspot.com
CASE 2
not, it is down to stopping applying too much pressure in masturbating. He writes:
Hi guys, this is my stretching journey, with as much detail as possible and some tips. Hope it helps you!
Long story short: I discovered the way I was masturbating caused my phimosis. I did stretching exercises and succeeded.
Disclaimer: This is not medical advice. This is only my experience.
MY PHIMOSIS CONDITION
31 Years old. Grade 2 phimosis, with lots of scarred skin. I can retract fully when flaccid, but not when erect. Didn't use to have phimosis before, I acquired it through the years. I could always fit 2 fingers inside the foreskin to do the stretching.
Photo: this is all I can pull:
Video: you can see how much I can pull. The phimotic band is not at the top of the foreskin, which is why I can pull some more with my fingers.
https://reddit.com/link/t4j73k/video/zl6ek1bdcuk81/player
HOW I THINK I GOT PHIMOSIS - DID BAD MASTURBATION HABITS CAUSED AND WORSENED MY PHIMOSIS?
I didn't consult a doctor about this, so this is only my opinion, but I'm sure this is what happened. I didn't use to have phimosis; I acquired it through the years. I think I got it from masturbating vigorously (applying too much force and pressure with my hand). I would always end up with a swollen foreskin, and sometimes little cuts on it. This caused the skin to form scar tissue, which doesn't stretch as much as normal skin, so my guess is that all that scarring made my skin tighter.
There is something called "Traumatic Masturbation Syndrome", which is when you masturbate vigorously or do prone masturbation. This causes the penis to become desensitized, and can cause erectile dysfunction in the long run. So I think this is what happened to me, I applied too much pressure, become desensitized and needed even more to make it feel good every time, causing more harm to the skin.
CHANGING MASTURBATION HABITS
This took a lot of time before I found out how to correctly masturbate because I didn't know what the problem was. So at first I thought that only by pulling forwards with my hand (so that the foreskin covers the head) and letting loose so the foreskin uncovers the head on its own would be enough. That didn't work out, because I was still applying too much pressure.
I read that for a desensitized penis, not masturbating for a week would make it sensitive again to little stimulation. So I come up with the idea of masturbating by not applying any pressure at all. I don't close my hand around the penis, and I barely touch it. It took some time to make a habit of it, but I could see the effects immediately, the skin wouldn't become swollen anymore.
Nonetheless, this took months, I don't know how many. It's hard changing something you are used to do in a certain way. I guess it's like learning how to write with the opposite hand.
MY STRETCHING JOURNEY, ROUTINE & ADJUSTMENTS
After changing my masturbation habits, I decided to give stretching a try before consulting a doctor.
DAY 1: The first couple of weeks were only for testing: how much stretching I could handle, how much force to apply, where to apply it, how the skin reacted through the days, etc.
DAY 14: After that, I decided my stretching routine: 2 minutes 30 seconds, 4 times with resting time in between, once a day after shower. The resting times were also approximately 2'30" each. I was precise with the stretching time, but not so much with the resting time. I held this routine for 1 and 1/2 months, and I could start seeing some results, but only a little bit, so I decided to change it.
DAY 60: I changed it to 5' of stretching and 5'-10' of resting in between, 4 times, once a day. The foreskin could resist it, but my fingers become numb by the last minutes. After one month with this routine, I started seeing real results. I started feeling motivated, which was a great mental change. Under certain positions, I could retract my foreskin almost completely if I forced it carefully and slowly.
DAY 90: Another month in, it was easier to retract my foreskin, but still not there yet, because there's still some resistance. Finding the phimotic band with my fingers became harder, since it kind of got to the point where the rest of the foreskin is. By this point I already consider it a success. When I masturbate, it's easier to do it if I stretch beforehand. I continue stretching the same way, but find the progress slows down, maybe it's because with every day that passes, I find it harder to find the phimotic band, and I don't really know if I'm actually stretching it. Nonetheless, there is progress.
https://reddit.com/link/t4j73k/video/1m36vl29duk81/player
DAY 120: This was the result. I heard that once you are done, you should keep stretching for at least 4 weeks to avoid it from shrinking, and after only by masturbating you will be able to maintain it. So that's what I'll do, maybe I keep stretching even more time, just in case. And I'll stretch the entire foreskin, and not only where the phimotic band was. Here is the before & after:
https://reddit.com/link/t4j73k/video/aw9f0y5qcuk81/player
To sum it up, this is how much time the stretching took:
- 15 days for testing
- 45 days of not stretching enough.
- 60 days doing it right.
HOW I DID THE STRETCHING & TIPS I LEARNED
- I didn't use any cream or oil. I always stretched after the shower to have moisturized and relaxed skin. There were some times when I did it before shower, so I gently massaged the foreskin to get it to relax.
- I used the 2 fingers stretching (they always fitted in), holding still all the time, and not letting loose
- I didn't stretch the whole foreskin with the falange of my fingers, only used the tip of the fingers to stretch the phimotic band.
- When stretching, you should feel tension, but it must not painful. How much is something you have to try and find out yourself. It also shouldn’t ache after stretching sessions.
- You have to be constant and do it daily, but also let the skin rest occasionally. For me, there was usually one day a week in which I wouldn't stretch, or do it for half the time, just to avoid soreness. If the skin becomes sore, then let it rest the necessary days for it to heal (this didn't happen to me at all, if it continues happening to you, then you are doing something wrong).
- Don't try to rush it at first, use the first few weeks as a test to learn how to do it, don't expect the results to come during that time.
- It takes compromise to do it every day; you have to think of it as a routine, just like brushing your teeth or showering. You won't be motivated to do it; you just have to do it. Motivation comes when you start seeing the first results, and it has a positive effect on your mind; when it comes, you will want to keep going.
- It may sound like it takes a lot of time, but time flies by. It's years of phimosis fixed by a few months only.
- I highly recommend reading this: http://phimosisjourney.com/
I hope this helped you! Thank you for reading!
Special thanks to everyone in this community!
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I’ve hit 60 days of nofap today, and my phimosis is almost completely conquered (just slight frenulum breve and sensitivity). After 90 days of nofap, I’m gonna need to smash and I was wandering a few things.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Phimosis/comments/y4wvgm/sexy_times/ Reddit, Oct 2022
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Do not listen to this advice what so ever. This is literally the worst advice possible , masterbating more will only cause more inclination and soreness to the foreskin , tugging harder can cause even more discomfort, this has to be the dumbest advice I’ve read so far.
The best way to fix phimosis is to literally cut down on masterbation , perhaps once a day MAX try to keep masterbation to a minimal 3-4 times a week if you want , if you can try doing 2-3 a week. [Editor Note: This is still far to much as you can set your progress back a lot very easily with one session. You need to not do it for months and avoid exercise so all energy goes into repair]
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Phimosis/comments/uwb3et/mild_phimosis_case_and_slightly_short_frenulum/ November 2022
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CASE 7: User throwaway20226715
I have suffered setbacks due to tearing of my foreskin from most likely rough masturbation. Over the last few months, however, I tried the method of attempting to pull your foreskin back as far as possible without pain during masturbation. I wasn't expecting much, but over the course of weeks I noticed that I was slowly able to pull my foreskin farther and farther back without pain. Mind you, I think I may simply have a tight foreskin rather than full on phimosis because I've always been able to retract enough to see about 5-10% of the head, but this was a massive game-changer for me regardless. This, coupled with easing the voracity with which I was masturbating has really helped me see progress and I finally achieved the ability to see the entire glans when erect.
Source: Semi-Cured Phimosis Reddit, Nov 2022
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Case 8
EDITOR NOTE: He puts it down to stretching but it is likely due to not masturbating and the penis shaft repairing so it is wide than the head.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/user/Phimowarrior_tway/submitted/ Reddit April 2023
Case 9
i need to not fap for a few months due to some health problems, i have not done it for 4 days and im already getting hit like a truck from horniness, i legit woke up in the middle on the night from being horny and now im writing this post, i went from doing it from 7 times a day to not even touching touching and now im "burning up".
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He writes: "I'm 19 years old and i used to mastrubate prone (laying on my stomach and rubbing my penis until i cum while its in flaccid state) till the age of 15-16 and not with my hands(natural way).
I almost never get morning erections. Although, i do get nightime erections which I've noticed whenever i wake up after 4 hours of sleep, also i get partial erections when I'm woken up by the need to pee.
my erection quality is not very good and they dont last long. i also mastrubate quite frequently (7-16 times a week). Furthermore my foreskin is very tight as i have phimosis, I'll be getting circumcised in 3 months for this reason.
My goal is to improve my erection quality, get moring woods all the time and grow my dick be 0.5-1 inch minimum as I'm only 5 inches at best (slightly below that perhaps but 4.7-5). my dream is 6 inches. but 5.5-6 would be good as well."
Moving my foreskin up and down, vs rubbing which was what I originally did
"So I have what I assume is relatively mild phimosis. When flaccid I can slide my foreskin down with 0 problems. I've been doing it for years to shower. However, I discovered just the other day that I can't full slide it down when erect (it goes like half way then stops). Never had the need to check I guess. So I got here eventually, and I decided to try stretching. It makes sense to me, given where I am, to stretch while erect, but it's not easy. I tend not to get erect often, but I can manage, but when I do and I slip my foreskin down I start to go soft really quick. I think its because this whole thing is making me anxious and that's kind of an arousal killer. How do you guys keep hard while stretching?"
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Phimosis/comments/nj1vu0/how_to_stay_erect_when_stretching_and_other_tips/
"I have known I had phimosis for over a year now, but I found it to be a chore and that it wouldn’t work since I can’t get my fingers in so I just pinch the skin on each side a little and pull apart. But only do it rarely, sometimes I stop for few weeks then do it for a month so ofcouse I’m not seeing progress
How ever tho, last week and a half I can notice progress, I haven’t been stretching tho, I simply just haven’t been able to masterbate since I’ve had to live with my nan for a little while. I’m not sure if I even have phimosis, because the skin seems to be stuck to the head more than the hole being too small, and since I’ve stopped I’ve obviously been avoiding getting dick cheese, and I have got a lot still.
But as I gradually clean it out slowly at a time by pulling when I pinch the foreskin in bath, I seems to be getting not so stuck to the head and it looks like it’s making progress
So my question is, does stop mastebating help it cure itself, or have I even got phimosis, but rather my skin is just stuck to the head by dick cheese?
FYI, been masterbating daily for like 6-8yrs and never knew to clean afterwards, but also FYI I couldn’t pull it back before hand, but also I would of been like 10-13 so it wouldn’t of had time to stretch its self by then before I started collecting dick cheese.
I’m so confused, can you help me know if it’s phimosis or excessive cheese sticking it to the head"
Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20210509193247if_/https://www.reddit.com/r/Phimosis/comments/n8ljgu/stop_masterbating_helps/ Reddit, May 2021
"I would say it took me around 1-2 months. However even after I could retract, it wasn't that smooth but as I masturbated correctly after this and whatnots, I gained even more mobility."
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Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Phimosis/comments/kqnodt/my_foreskin_finally_can_be_pulled_back_and_it_has/?ref=share&ref_source=link Jan 2020
Source: https://www.reddit.com/user/SelectionWide
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"I started fapping at the age of 13 and have been doing it between 3-10 times per day ever since. With three being the absolute minimum (one in the morning, one during the day and one before bed). So I guess I sound like every other dopamine addicted chronic masturbator, however I have some big problems.
Since I started masturbating I have done so in a very weird style, note that I have never done it normally and don't think I can. I basically lay down flat on my bed, and sort of use my hands to stretch my foreskin and create lots of pressure on my penis bending it in half completely flaccid, yes I fap and ejaculate flaccid a freak of nature right? This technique has caused a serious curve that is classed as Peyronies Disease where my penis curves at a 45 degree angle.
This weird style has also caused my foreskin to stretch so far it hangs off and I had severe phimosis however it is now mild after months of stretching I can finally pull it back with a bit of force. But the excess foreskin is unsightly.
As I said this weird masturbation style never required an erection. I would fap and cum flaccid and even wait for an erection to dissappear before fapping."
"I have only just read that it is not normal to not be able to retract your foreskin when you are either flaccid or erect and I cant do it with both. Ive read that it could be due to a strange masturbation technique such as 'masturbating through clothes or simply just rubbing the penis under clothes' Ive realised that ive been doing this pretty much everyday since I can remember and Im now 21. If I stop this kind of masturbation will my perpetuial ring widen and allow my glans to emerge? Im reluctant to go to the doctors to tell anyone about it and circumcizion is OUT OF THE QUESTION for me. please help me with advice!"
Yahoo Answers, 2010
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100614083203AArB4uC
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"I have never been able to pull my foreskin back - ever - and, silly as it may sound, it only recently came to my attention that this may actually be... well, not the norm. After hearing this, I did a bit of research online to discover that the condition is called 'phimosis'. Honestly, it's very sensitive if I try to retract it and I have some kind of psychological block where the fear of it being painful prevents me from trying too much.
Seems that in some people it can be caused by infection, but there is also a school of thought which suggests that it can also be caused by 'prone' masturbation - another fancy term I was unfamiliar with. Prone masturbation is just a posh way of saying, 'masturbation by lying face down on the bed and humping the mattress'. Ahem.
Anyway, that's the only masturbation technique I've ever practised and never thought anything of it until I read all this a few days ago. There are plenty of debates about the whole thing though, whether or not there actually is a link between one's technique and the development of phimosis. So, that left me all a bit confuzzled. Then, there's another theory which suggests that prone masturbation can lead to sex drive problems in later life - although that conclusion was based on a ridiculously small study sample and isn't widely accepted as fact.
Based on the theory that 'prone' technique causes phimosis, it has been suggested that the condition can be cured if the person stops that technique completely and just does it the 'conventional' way. Which is fine, except that because I'm so used to doing it 'prone' (such a silly term), wanking in the conventional sense doesn't really do it for me. There's a slight arousal, followed by... well, boredom generally. But all of this is based on a theory rather than proven fact, so I'm a bit confused.
Anyway, thanks to the internet I now feel like an insecure and slightly concerned freak. I don't know, does any of this chime with anyone else?"
fmforums, 2011:
http://www.fmforums.co.uk/forums/lofiversion/index.php?t135193.html
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Beauge, a French doctor found a link between masturbation practices and phimosis.
http://www.cirp.org/library/treatment/phimosis/beauge/
http://www.male-initiation.net/library/medicus/beauge.html
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"The process is sometimes hard, indeed. But in the end it justifies the success ^^ Now, to answer your first question. I had stretching sessions for about 15-20 minutes, yes.
I kept my fingers inside as long as I could without feeling any pain.
When I started to feel a bit of pain I did not let my foreskin go.. instead, I kept it stretched for about 10-15 more seconds and then I let it go. So you could say that I had a few breaks.. maybe like a minute break.. not more than that.
As for the second question.
At the time, I think I masturbated for about 2 times per day.. or once.. I cant really remember.
I do not think it affected my stretching cause I had a really weird way of masturbating which was not pulling the foreskin over my glans ( obviously I could not do that due to my phimosis ).
I kinda like rubbed my glans with a specific part of my palm which ended in giving me normal masturbating sessions and it did not affect my progress in any way.
The only thing that did affect my progress was normal stretching shown here.
Source: http://www.network54.com/Forum/244184/thread/1426804197/last-1427400606/I+DID+IT+%21+-%29
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Of course I didn't feel like wanting to go through that so I asked for other options, he gave me steroid creams and told me to try to expand it myself.
I did and it kind of worked, I can retract my foreskin fully now (when erect), I still have some pending issues with that, since I have a short frenulum to deal with.
Now my current problem is with balanitis, the first time I got this red spots and inflammation I went to the doctor, he told me it was balanitis, gave me some over the counter cream and within 3 days I was back to normal.
Yet the problem persist, every time I masturbate too much/hard the problem comes back. I do enjoy long masturbation sessions with a lot or rubbing (sometimes even under clothes), but besides getting another opinion I don't know what to do.
Even trying to match the doctor's appointment with the problem is hard, I have it one day and the next one (or two) I'm all fine. So my question is, do you know of any method or process that I can do to minimize this? lotion? a bath before fap, a bath after? with soap, without soap? Any circumcised fellows with similar issue around?
Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/30v8d6/balanitis_phimosis_circumcision_rough/
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When I was about 11 I began masturbating. Instead of the up and down motion, I would rub it like if I was making a clay snake. Fast forward again to about 14, I was watching a porn video and noticed the guy had foreskin, but they did kinda a close-up and he pulled it all the way back and I was like "Wait wut?" and after looking up on Google I finally realized I was supposed to retract my foreskin. Source: http://www.network54.com/Forum/244184/thread/1434208789/last-1434361088/Can+I+fix+this-
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I've never been able to orgasm from vaginal stimulation (oral & handjobs too) & can often go for 20+ minutes resulting in me having to finish myself off often causing a lot of problems and self frustration with various partners. I used to masterbate prone until I was 18 then for the last 8 years conventionally (no lube though) and until now was watching porn & masterbating about twice a day. it's as if during intercourse I just don't feel the sensation as I imaging my glans are covered by the foreskin so i just get a sort of warm sensation but not enough stimulation to reach orgasm regardless of position. Source: http://www.network54.com/Forum/244184/thread/1459115123/last-1459661828/Unable+to+orgasm+from+PIV+-+Phimocure+Rings
| I have cured my phimosis after 5 months which was caused by my use of prone masturbation and I can't seem to find a way of supine masturbation that feels good in any way. I have tried both wet and dry but cannot finish. When I stroke I feel nothing, just the action happening. My glans is still very sensitive but I'm not sure if that's the problem. Is there anything I can do to make my masturbation sessions feel good?" |
http://www.network54.com/Forum/244184/thread/1481603255/last-1481652718/Cured+Phimosis%2C+can%27t+Masturbate.
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"A little context: i have phimosis (not an extreme case), but i only realized when i was about 20 something, as is wasn't something that bothered me in any way, i "learned" how to masturbate dry, since the foreskin allowed me to stimulate the head, without using any lube (since i "grab" the skin and use it to stimulate). Eventually, i started to "burn" the skin, turning it darker, even making a few bruises, that didn't hurt at all, but visually was weird, that i started to be embarassed about it, showing it to other people. In fact, sometimes it feels i use a lot of strenght to get an orgasm.
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"I have suffered from phimosis since I can remember. When I was a kid I started masturbating in a really weird way and until I saw some porn I didn’t figure out how to masturbate properly." Source: https://stretchingphimosis.wordpress.com/2015/06/17/hello-world/
17. "I do genuinely believe excessive masturbation plays its part. I’m convinced that’s how I’ve ended with Phimosis - too much masturbation and I was probably using a poor, overly rigorous technique."
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Phimosis/comments/focoj0/covid19_lockdown_and_phimosis/
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I know I was not masterbating like others. I usually lie down and press my penis against bed and floor. All these years I thought I just found a different way to masterbate. But I was completely wrong.
What I was doing is prone masterbation which has serious side effects. When I read about it, I was terrified!
At the same time, I figured out that never in my life I tried to pull my foreskin back. I told myself, if I had done masterbation correctly all these years, I would not be facing phimosis currently which I don't know for sure."
Hello! 20 year old male throwaway account here starting his journey to cure phimosis. I'm doing this by stretching by the edges as I cannot fit two fingers in yet.
My question is if masturbation causes phimosis? I've been seeing multiple varying answers on the topic and it doesn't seem to be adding up at all. Theres a subreddit dedicated to the theory that it causes phimosis, yet, here, I've seen that masturbation actually cures phimosis somewhat (by the Beague method I believe).
I masturbate at least once or twice a day (Most of the times morning and night, and I do not do prone masturbation), and sometimes I dont masturbate at all due to exhaustion from daily life. I've started changing my way of masturbation by stretching all the way it can go without the accompany of pain. Obviously it felt good, and somewhat felt like it helped to do this different way of masturbation.
The past 2-3 days I've been stretching by the edges as I've said, and it seems like I can see my foreskin becoming more elastic over time, I don't know if my method is working or I'm seeing things. Either ways... I would like your thoughts on masturbation being the cause of phimosis!
He writes:
Finally got around to getting my foreskin to stretch past my glands. It’s still very tight but after a month I’d say this is definitely progress of continual stretching in the shower + limited masturbation.
He has diabetes and so got balinitis. One of few people who followed my method of not masturbating. Not sure my method is enough for acquired phimosis. But can’t harm. The moderator chose to delete his comment. The moderator banned me from r/phimosis for advocating my method of not masturbating.
Male, 24 Masturbation frequency = at least 1/day Sex frequency = fluctuates, at least 1/fortnight
I am sure this question/story has been posted a thousand times but I need to ask this again.
I have a pretty severe case of phimosis - I literally cannot pull my foreskin down.
And the one time I did, it was accidentally during sex - and that was the most painful experience of my life.
I had to go to the ER of a hospital because the foreskin could not be pulled up, and it was choking my penis so hard that it became swollen. That was so fucking shit.
Since then, I always use lube during sex. I’ve seen a urologist who thinks my phimosis is so severe that I should receive circumcision.
Another important fact to note is that I have never in my life orgasmed during intercourse (hand job, blowjob or PIV). I only cum if I jerk myself off and with intense focus.
I am honestly not sure why - it may be because I masturbate fairly frequently, but it may also be due to my severe phimosis which makes it basically impossible for anything beneath the foreskin to make contact or touch anything. Like, it physically hurts.
So: what do I do? I see conflicting opinions everywhere on circumcisions. My biggest concern to be frank is with sensation and pleasure. I originally thought getting a circumcision might fix my difficulty orgasming; but what if the real reason was due to my porn/masturbation habits? At the same time, a circumcision would mean that I never ever end up in the ER of a hospital at 4am while two doctors try pull my foreskin back up and I'm in incredible pain and agony.
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